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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.04.29 23:27:00 -
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Broken Thoughts wrote:to all the trolls saying cane is far superior to harb, then why is it, that you see far more harbingers than hurricanes... oh wait
Then why my Cane does more dps @ 28km with lower skills than my Harbinger @ 28km with dmg implant? |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.04.30 07:51:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Then why my Cane does more dps @ 28km with lower skills than my Harbinger @ 28km with dmg implant? Because the optimal is around 23km on your Harb and it has very little falloff.
Running one Tracking Computer with optimal range script. That's 25+5 with Scorch. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.04.30 10:07:00 -
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Jack Miton wrote:Harb should have Focused Med Pulses on it, not heavy pulse.
Harb is a great ship, so is cane, they work completely differently, move on.
Anyone who claims lasers are bad doesnt know how to fit/use amarr ships.
Yeah and then it would do less dps.
Shield Cane vs armor Harbinger. Cane wins.
Shield Cane vs shield Harbinger. Cane wins.
Armor Cane vs armor Harbinger. Cane wins.
Armor Cane vs shield Harbinger. Cane wins. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.04.30 16:48:00 -
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Lunkwill Khashour wrote:I do believe an armor Harbinger sends a Shield Cane running (unless it gets caught, then bb cane)
We had a test a while ago. Guy wanted to know good I'm and how good his Cane was against my Harbinger. The moment I got his shields down to 50% I started taking structure damage. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:01:00 -
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Korg Tronix wrote:Then your Harbinger was very poorly fitted if we are talking Armour Harb versus Shield Cane
I don't know about his tank. I guess it was shield tanked. Insane regen rate. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:15:00 -
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I only had skills to use T1 lasers. Only used two crystals: Radio for long range and Multifrequency for short range.
Fit was the same I used for PVE. And I wasn't allowed to use my Hammerhead IIs. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.04.30 17:48:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:Hey, I'm not normally hung on YOU MUST HAVE XX MILLION SP TO PVP but goddamn, you seriously need T2 lasers. And why weren't you allowed to use Hammerhead IIs? The generous dronebay of the Harb is a major way of redressing the double damage bonused Cane in terms of DPS. Would you also leave off one of your turrets?
- 12 days it takes to train medium energy turrets from 4 to 5 was long time back then. So I kinda delayed training them.
- Because fight wasn't for real, it was only for test purposes. I had actually invested some time to train drones unlike someone. You know Minmatar pilots...  |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.05.01 05:00:00 -
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Haulie Berry wrote:If I'm reading this correctly, you're saying that lasers and projectiles have different stats?
Yes. Because Winmatar should win always and mostly they do. Just check K/D ratios. Lasers have been nerfed so many times. Lasers used to be good. A long time ago. That's just not possible anymore. Drake could solo that Geddon nowadays. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.05.01 22:18:00 -
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Demolishar wrote:I used to complain about Minmatar being OP then i trained Minmatar.
Yeah, unfortunately it's the only way. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.05.02 08:18:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:People really don't seem to quite realize the effects of falloff.. A typical nanocane does around 400 dps at the 20 km range
A good harbi does 6-700...
Harbinger does 600-700 dps @ 6km. That's with ammo with tracking penalty. Tracking is bad with pulses at that range anyway. |
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:40:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:2. Medium pulse tracking is perfectly fine for your "vs. a Cane" scenario, even with Conflag loaded. If you are having tracking issues against a Cane at that range... I really don't know what to say.
No, at that range I would have other problems like no cap. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy
Caldari State
31
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Posted - 2012.05.02 21:53:00 -
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Not enough grid with Heavy Pulses. With Focused Medium Pulses I have to lose 50% of my dps.
And I do have AWU5 trained... thanks for not asking. |
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